In time we will be given the opportunity to either contract around the old version of ourselves and our world — insular, self-interested and tribalistic — or understand the connectedness and commonality of all humans, everywhere. In isolation, we will be presented with our essence — of what we are personally and what we are as a society. We will be asked to decide what we want to preserve about our world and ourselves, and what we want to discard. ~Nick Cave, musician and creator of Red Hand Files
"We will be asked to decide what we want to preserve about our world and ourselves, and what we want to discard," says Bad Seeds lead singer Nick Cave, who also happens to be a voice of sanity and kindness on the internet.
He's speaking of the pandemic that's sweeping our world right now. He's speaking of the wholesale inventory that so many of us are undertaking as we huddle in our homes, anxious and isolated from so much of what gives shape to our lives.
He's not speaking about the impact of infidelity but he might as well be.
Because that's exactly what happens to so many of us in the wake of the tsunami of betrayal. We look around and what seemed familiar just hours before is no longer. Our partner is a stranger. Our home feels too small, too suffocating. Our minds can't be trusted. Our hearts are shattered.
A "ghost ship" is what Cave's friend called our world right now. A ghost ship, still afloat but emblematic of death and loss. Direction-less.
It has been years since my own D-Day. And I have many many days when I hardly think about it. Yes, I continue to post on this site and yes, I moderate comments. But it has become something that happened so long ago. A part of my history the way that certain furniture in my current home was part of my childhood. The way I recognize an old song. It no longer stings.
Except for the occasional time when someone posts something and it resonates so deeply in my heart's memory that, under my breath, I emit a "yes". Or the occasional time when I stumble on a phrase and I recognize it as a secret message for me.
Ghost ship.
Yes.
That was what betrayal felt like for me. A ghost ship. Afloat but barely. Alone. Lost.
Yes.
I drifted that way for a year. Two.
But somewhere in there, I did what Nick Cave says we all must do. Somewhere in there, I paid attention to my essence, to who I was personally and who I wanted to be. I recognized my own agency, my own ability to create the marriage I wanted (or leave), to be the person I wanted to be, and to insist that, if he wanted to remain married to me, he become the best version of himself.
I determined what I wanted to preserve and what I wanted to discard.
There's so much power in that.
It's power we all have, even when we don't yet recognize it. So many letters from all of you come from a place of powerlessness. You don't – I didn't – recognize the power that we have.
To decide what we want to preserve and what we want to discard.
I get it. In those early days, it's a challenge to wash our face, to get out the door, to stumble through our days.
There are days, weeks, months when the best we can do is rest. Shore up our strength. Prepare for the reckoning.
But when that reckoning comes, when we have outgrown the cocoon, please know that you are strong enough for that moment. That you have the power necessarily to make those choices. You may have to put some things in place: Save some money. Meet with a lawyer. Work outside the home. Create an Exit Plan. Insist on therapy.
But you decide: What to preserve and what to discard.
Yes.
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Enjoying all of your recent posts. They have really been helping me center my thoughts. My D-Day was almost three months ago. Thank you for all of your wisdom. It helps me get through each day.
ReplyDeleteI'm so glad the site is helping. I created it to help others through those lonely days and weeks and months. To remind all of us that we'll get through this. One foot in front of the other. To take care of ourselves. To recognize that he didn't cheat because there's something wrong with us but because there's something wrong with him.
DeleteMy heart is so heavy today and then I read this. I am 9 years out of my first D-Day but there have been so many relapses on his part and zero growth. I've known for months I can't stay here; it's so toxic and has infected my work life, friendships, my very soul. We've been forced to stay together in our house for 5 days and last night he called me a fu**ing bi**h because I told him he was overreacting to a candle I had lit in my home office.
ReplyDeleteHe will most likely lose his job in the next few weeks unless a miracle happens with the economy. My job is secure (I think) so I'm going to have to physically stay in our home probably through summer to see how our finances shake out. But no more. I am strong and good and I will make it on my own.
After 40 years I must preserve myself and discard him.
Thank you, Elle.
Susan Grace,
DeleteI am so sorry. Nobody should be spoken to by that. Sucks that he might lose his job but hardly your fault. Sounds very much like he has chosen to remain toxic rather than learn and grow and become a better person.
I'm glad you feel better. We often do when we finally make the decision that feels right for us. You will be shedding toxicity and prioritizing your own physical and emotional health. Brava to you.
I can so resonate with this. I struggled for 4 years after finding out my husband was having an affair and again just 8 months ago that he never ended it and it was still going on. We separated for several months and are now back together but there are red flags in our counselor's mind about his actions and motives for deciding to work on the marriage, which I have finally come to realize was actually a fairytale, just not the kind of fairytale I thought it was for 37 years. This has been very hard for me to accept since I am now 60 years old and have spent my whole life loving, doting, and sacrificing for someone who never put me first and who may not have even loved me me at all. At this point, it's very hard to think about starting over at my age when things are finally falling into place in every other area of my life. I am a Christian, and i went away a few weeks ago to a retreat and there the theme I felt the Lord saying to me is that He is bringing me back to me. I realized that I don't even remember who "me" is. I had to spend time in prayer so that He could remind me who He had created me to be. But He is and I am coming back to myself, even though my future is very uncertain as far as if I will be with or without my husband. However, this whole thing has been so good for me in so many ways. I am not the same person I was before. I am a better Christian and a better and stronger woman. I really like who I have become through all of this. This has been because of the help of the Lord, some dear friends He brought into my path, and good resources like this blog. If you are struggling, I encourage you to get your eyes off him, as much as possible, and focus on yourself. I love the quote that says something to the effect to determine what kind of woman you want to become and to make every decision with that in mind. Take care of YOU! It will help bring healing and prepare you for what lies ahead, no matter what that might be.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, That is often the silver lining in the pain of betrayal. We rediscover ourselves and we recognize the ways in which we've betrayed ourselves. We learn how to better care for ourselves, how to prioritize our own wants/needs. It sounds as though you're discovering what so many of us have too.
DeleteWhatever happens with your marriage, I'm glad that you are developing a much healthier relationship with yourself.
Thank you Elle! I know I can be stronger from this (and so does he). He just doesn't know about himself and whether it will be an awakening or just more darkness, but I can't help him with that. He has to find his happiness for himself and I need to find it for myself. I just hope I can continue forward. I'd like it to be with my husband, but I can't make him be with me or to choose me, I can only choose myself. I'm 7 months out and the time has gone by so fast yet so slow.
ReplyDeleteNo, you can't help him with that. And his not knowing is really just a way of abdicating responsibility on his part. He can take steps to deal with his issues. Or he can throw up his hands and say it's impossible. Either way, he's making a choice.
DeleteBut, as noted, it's not a choice you can make for him. But I hope you will choose YOU.
Its a long time since I've posted. I went and got a job, I turned 50, I was one of a few selected for a special agents and publishers day, I became more myself, I practised mindfulness and gained the ability to see more clearly. I had three acutely painful episodes of sciatica with a total of seven weeks off work (cumulatively) bringing huge uncertainty as to whether this will be something I will be dealing with again and again (with the potential to upend all sorts of plans) and whether surgery might be the right thing. My husband and I became close as he really began a more thoughtful and considerate person. In the last few weeks he has been an intimate carer for his parents after his father's heart operation (and in helping his disabled mother). Just before this current coronavirus uncertainty my second son was in hospital with severe headache, vertigo and nausea and my sciatica had reoccurred. As well as looking after his father, my husband had been attentive to me and had spent long hours with my son in A&E and the hospital. Between us things had been much better but for those familiar with my story its been one of repeated (smaller) indiscretions after the main affair. Now I have found out that 1 year ago the lady he went to lunches with (not the main affair from 2014 but a kick in the face in 2017 after supposedly wanting to repair) contacted him on Linkedin. He cheerily answered her and NEVER TOLD ME. This is a woman who blocked me from all social media after I sent a friendly (but here I am) message on Linkedin before. This is in direct violation of my clearly expressed boundary not to be in contact with anyone inappropriate and to be honest about it. He says he was still people pleasing at the time. He was in therapy throughout 2019 after this incident and says a lot of work was done on this sort of thing but he says he forgot about the incident after it happened. He obviously hid it at the time but also never brought it up later. I tend to believe he forgot but 1) Once again his old mechanisms were in play and so automatic he did not care about my expressed boundary or the hurt he caused. 2) he violated a boundary that was set. I do believe that he has made great progress in the year since but this is not the first boundary he has crossed. We have had in house seperations and me drawing the line at other behaviours too (lack of empathy on triggers etc.) I am torn between the fact that we had got close and he seemed to have made good progress versus the fact that he has gone directly against a boundary yet again and hid things - be it a year ago. I want to live a happy life as we had started to do, I want my kids to have parents who give off a good atmosphere but I don't want to betray myself again by having to just move on again despite this. I have said I will never wear the ring again. He has said he will set up his accounts on my PC so I can check them but apart from these things what can he do to prove himself. He had that chance when she contacted him in Feb 2019 and he blew it. He has only ever come forward with new info when a gun is (metaphorically) to his head. In times like these you wish the life you were living was true and authentic and time is precious. Our relationship has to be compromised even when I thought we'd begun to move on.
ReplyDeleteFOH,
DeleteI completely get how devastating it is when we discover that a boundary has been violated. And though, to him, it happened more than a year ago, to you, it's happening right now.
It sounds as though he's s-l-o-w-l-y getting it. Of course, you're never obliged to give second or third or fourth chances.
Given that he can't undo what he did, what do you feel as though you need from him now to move forward?
Hi Elle, thanks for your kind remarks. What do I need from him to move forward? 1) I want him in general to be the kind of person who shares instead of conflict avoids and doesn't even think to share 2) I want him to have been the kind of person who had grown enough to respect my requests and honour the hurt he had already caused. A similar thing happened before and what should have happened in that case was clearly spelled out. He is like a child who doesn't listen. This is like water torture, on and on. As I begin to get over the hurt and forge forward (at great effort from myself to deal with triggers and old grief) I then discover once again this lack of respect, consideration, empathy - as his old mechanisms override all that. I have no evidence whatsoever that he will be straight when there is any expense to him (and even hardly any expense at all as was in this case!) I wanted a relationship - two way, authentic, honest, respecting each other. This isn't that.
DeleteFOH,
DeleteYeah, I get it. I think, however, that you're still looking backward, to some extent. He can't retroactively become someone worthy of your love. And conflict avoidance is such a deeply ingrained behaviour that I suspect, without intense therapy, he can become someone who seeks out conversation/collaboration when he's likely had a lifetime of avoiding anything that makes him feel vulnerable or ashamed or afraid.
What he can do is learn, likely slowly, how to show up for you. But...is he willing to do that? Beyond words, has he done ANYTHING to make you think that he's willing to make himself extraordinarily uncomfortable in order to learn how to show up for you? If not, I think you've got your future in front of you. If not, he's showing you that you can expect more of the same.
So...it becomes your choice whether you stick around for more of the same or whether you cut your losses and leave. You cannot change him, FOH. I think it's great that you're working hard on your own healing. I'm sure that's a big part of why the status quo is not okay with you. You're changing and growing. You know you deserve better.
But knowing it and refusing to tolerate anything less are two different things. Maybe you're not ready to leave yet. That's okay. But maybe it's time to put an Exit Plan in place. To see a lawyer. To take a hard look at finances. To figure out the logistics of leaving. And maybe put a deadline in place. If you don't see actual change within three months, six months, whatever, then you are done.
It's one of the biggest hurdles for so many of us who have spent a lifetime prioritizing others -- to realize that we can't love someone into becoming a better person. That we can't beg/cajole/plead/etc. someone into being different.
But we can control ourselves and how we respond to those who mistreat us, to those who prioritize their own comfort over ours. You can demand better, FOH. And when others don't give us their better, we can walk.
"To decide what we want to preserve and what we want to discard." I'm 7 years out and still think of the psycho- kindergarten from time to time. Well frequently not in a lamenting way, more like, I know he only loves himself really. He loves me the best he can. It is not enough. He told me, "I don't express myself well, it is really hard for me. I know it is not enough for you, but I will do the best I can." He has within his limited emotional state. Wow that sound fairly sterile. Anyway, I'm happy with myself. I find I don't fall back into the old me and he doesn't either unless we get multiple stressors. I use my voice. He hasn't left. He is still afraid I can leave anytime. Take your time deciding what you want to preserve. You can pick and choose, either he will like it or leave. I am regret I spent so much time on the affair, 5 years is a big chunk of life. It is from when my children were born to going to school. It is 17,520 TV shows to binge on. Too much time. It took me that much stinking time to figure myself out. There was a ton to figure out. The end of the chapter is I'm happy with myself how it all turned out. My marriage is still a relationship nothing more. I will never think of marriage in the same way, I did. He changed everything he said he would. We do have a warm loving relationship. We are very close again. Life is much better for both of us. The prince did not save the princess. The princess saved herself.
ReplyDeleteOh LLP. You always have such an incredible way of phrasing things. Yes, the princess saved herself. Which is, honestly, the only acceptable ending for any so-called fairy tale.
DeleteMy day happened 2 days ago , and I’m seeking help . I’ve read thru comments and posts from this blog and I’m hopeful to be able to move forward, but I know it will be difficult . I know I need to step my foot down and let him know my worth .... I literally googled “when your partner cheats and getting thru “ because I’m so lost . Is asking for your partner to go get tested and for passwords too much to ask for ?
ReplyDeleteJennifer,
DeleteUGH! I am so sorry. But I'm glad you found us. Yes, you will be able to move forward but you will likely go through the stages of grief first -- it will feel like a roller coaster.
But let's start with ABSOLUTELY. You must, in order to rebuild trust, be able to have total transparency in your marriage right now. It's reasonable, of course, for people in a marriage to expect a measure of privacy BUT NOT when one has just been revealed to have been betraying the other.
He must get tested (and you should too, which will likely rank up there as one of the most humiliating moments of your life). You should use protection until it's clear that both of you do not have an STD. And YES, you should absolutely insist on passwords and access to his phone, computer, whatever. You'll see at the top of this site that we have a tagline: "My heartbreak, my rules." If he wants you to even consider giving him a second chance, then he needs to realize that you're setting the rules of that potential reconciliation. And it starts with him agreeing to give you access so that you can be certain he's not continuing to cheat. He needs to send a no contact e-mail/text/whatever to anyone he's been cheating with. And I would also insist he seek out therapy to begin to understand why he risked his marriage.
You'll get through this. There are many many who do. But it takes a lot of hard work on both your sides.
How did you do this: "insist that, if he wanted to remain married to me, he become the best version of himself." This is 100% what I am trying to communicate but haven't found the ways.
ReplyDeleteIt took awhile because I was utterly crippled by the betrayal and it was all I could do to get out of bed. But...you'll note the tagline of this site is "My heartbreak, my rules." And that's exactly what it means. If you want me to give you a second chance, here's are the rules: Absolutely no contact with affair partners. Access to any/all electronic devices. Therapy. 12-step group, if necessary. I added in things like, he had to be home for dinner with the family. He absolutely had to tell me if he "slipped" and looked at porn or reached out (my husband was/is a sex addict). He had to tell me about anyone reaching out to him. If I found out anything that I had asked and he hadn't told me, that was a deal-breaker. He knew I meant it. He knew that he was being given ONE chance to make amends. Lucky for him (and me), he took it seriously. I did write a post about what we need from our spouses. Here's the link: https://betrayedwivesclub.blogspot.com/2014/04/my-letter-to-husbands-just-talk-about.html
DeleteGood luck, Unknown. You have more power than you realize. You do not need to compromise yourself for his love/loyalty (and if you do, that's your cue to get out of this marriage). He should want the best for you. And that's a loyal, honest, decent husband.
Is it just me? Or does the pain become worse everyday? It's only been 3 days since D-day but the thoughts running through my head are driving me crazy. I just wish they would stop for a moment so I can breathe and think clearly. I thought of my partner as my best friend. I never thought that cheating will be a part of our lives
ReplyDeleteSparkles,
DeleteYou are in the absolute worst of it. Three days in I could barely breathe either. Just focus on you, treat yourself and kindly and gently as possible. Just the basics -- eat, sleep, breathe. You will get through this but right now you're in shock. It will take tim to digest what's happening. If you don't already have a therapist, please get one. It will be your safe place to help you process the deep pain. If you have a good friend or family member who can help you through, that's good too. One foot in front of the other...